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[jan]

Vertex, on 24 November 2011 - 02:58 AM, said:

I wonder if that is what happened to Moiraine and she suddenly found herself nekked before a smiling Siuan.

Slightly but not very off topic: that would be a great prompt for fanfiction. *makes popcorn*

[Terez]

I think Thom is the first, for the reasons Deadsy said, and because RJ had a thing for making his leading ladies virgins. All of them have made it pretty clear that they were - Egwene, Elayne, Aviendha, Min, Tuon, Siuan, and Moiraine. You have to get into Berelain/Morgase territory for women with experience, and as much as Birgitte likes to talk about it, she's faithful to Gaidal.

[Deadsy]

4-4.

Ha ha Vertex!

Edited by Deadsy, 19 January 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[Terez]

Marie, on 24 November 2011 - 02:51 AM, said:

Well, not really. Her experience with men is debatable but she isn't technically a virgin. Thank you, Siuan Sanche.

As far as men are concerned, she is a virgin in every way that is important to them. Women don't count because the good aren't 'spoiled' unless a a man is involved. Some of them would draw the line at any kind of penetration, but most don't. So I think men would say that 'technically' she is a virgin, despite having some sort of sexual experience which is completely mysterious aside from something vague about getting hot and sweaty, and sheets.

[Vertex]

But Moiraine is an outgoing 40+ woman that's met just about every interesting man in the world. I suppose RJ's view on women is law here and his view of women is somewhat twisted but still. I think Moiraine deserves having had proper sex life and I can't see why she'd neglect herself that.

And, by the way, greetings and welcome Terez!

Deadsy, on 19 January 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

4-4.

Ha ha Vertex!

That should really be 5-4 to my side of seeing things, it is just that silly forum won't let me vote more than one single time!

[Sam]

a borderline positive post about moiraine from vertex?!

[Vertex]

Don't worry! I was under influence when I wrote that positive post about Moiraine so you can discount it if you find it unsettling.

[Sam]

just dont make it a habit

[Marie]

I have a hard time picturing Moiraine as a sexual being, period.

[Vertex]

I think she's described as really beautiful in the very start in Rand's POV. That means oozing sex in polite teen-boy language. As in "You are beautiful" meaning "You are sexy!" as in "I wanna do real bad things to you" as the now super famous Jace Everett song goes.

[Marie]

Vertex, on 07 February 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

I think she's described as really beautiful in the very start in Rand's POV. That means oozing sex in polite teen-boy language. As in "You are beautiful" meaning "You are sexy!" as in "I wanna do real bad things to you" as the now super famous Jace Everett song goes.

Yes, it is pretty obvious what is going on in Rand's mind (pants) at that first meeting.

[Vertex]

So then, because Moiraine is meant to be clever, she notices what effect she has on boys and enjoys their reactions(haha, I almost wrote erections!) or she'd dress down and be more invisible. I think it makes her feel very nice to be sexually desired and therefor, she's a sexual being! I did reasoning to prove my point right there

[Deadsy]

You're still wrong. So neener neener nanner

[Marie]

Except the idea of doing Rand shocked her; she never thought of him that way. Which means she never thought of him thinking of her that way. See, I can use logic too.

[Vertex]

Maybe she did in fact find that she liked the idea of doing Rand and she found that shocking but the editor went all, "Robert, this is turning into porn again! Remember you are doing fantasy for kids for goodness sake! What would the parents say if you wrote all that smut you really think about?"