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Does Moiraine realize her own Moiraineness?


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#16 Vertex

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:18 PM

I don't believe in extra non-physical properties of the mind, such as a soul. I think everyone would do the same things given identical circumstances, and so, I don't really believe in beings being inherently good and bad either. Sweets can be all kinds of good though, but that's different.

#17 Sivart

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:05 AM

I'm rather fond of the opposite ideology, myself.

Now, to the task at hand, I'm also of the belief nobody is truly aware of who they are. In the end, we align a numerous set of biases, either boasts, humility, or any combination of the two. Therefore, in the context of this topic, I'd say no, Moiraine is not aware she is Queen Bitch of BAMF Mountain.

#18 Erika Sedai

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 06:13 PM

I do not think so, no. I think she would be surprised to find others find her so amazing and maybe even annoyed. :(

#19 Asmodean82

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 03:53 AM

She was never won over by flattery. WHERE IS EVERYBODY????

#20 Marie

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 04:51 AM

I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM!

#21 Vertex

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:14 AM

*comforts* There there, Moiraine can't fulfill everyone's personal fantasy. I think she can be totally into flattery and really easy after a few gallant remarks, should the situation warrant that kind of Moiraine.

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Now, to the task at hand, I'm also of the belief nobody is truly aware of who they are. In the end, we align a numerous set of biases, either boasts, humility, or any combination of the two. Therefore, in the context of this topic, I'd say no, Moiraine is not aware she is Queen Bitch of BAMF Mountain.

Then what's the point of self awareness? I guess that kinda ties in with the whole mysterious soul concept but matter and energy in itself is all mysterious deep down. How it came to be and all such. So, maybe the mystery of matter and self awareness is the same? And then anyone made of matter could be Moiraine, if they had her genes and upbringing.

Edited by Vertex, 12 August 2010 - 06:36 AM.


#22 ~Romanda~

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:53 PM

If there isn't a soul or a spirit then I agree with you, Vertex. If someone was born with Moiraine's genes and had her upbringing they would be Moiraine, but they wouldn't be "someone" then, they'd just have always been her. It'd be the same with anyone. We are just ourselves.

#23 Vertex

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:05 PM

Except for Superman who's also Clark Kent. And other super heroes, I guess. Maybe Moiraine could become a superheroine by showing way too much skin and wearing a mask, and then her secret identity could realize her Moiraineness.

#24 ~Romanda~

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:29 PM

If she split up into two she'd be another Rand. Just, no.

#25 Ekho

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:38 PM

I am all for Moiraine becoming a superheroine and wearing revealing-but-not-skanky-costumes :marie:

#26 Vertex

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 11:57 PM

View PostEkho, on 12 August 2010 - 11:38 PM, said:

I am all for Moiraine becoming a superheroine and wearing revealing-but-not-skanky-costumes :D


I'm fine with them being skanky if that's what it takes :smit:


And she'd not be a female Rand. I refuse!

#27 jan

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 01:41 PM

She could just wear her underwear outside... :D

Hmm, wearing your shift outside your dress doesn't seem that exciting, on second thoughts.

Edited by jan, 25 August 2010 - 01:41 PM.


#28 ~Romanda~

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:46 AM

What would Superhero Moiraine wear... of course it would be extremely blue.

#29 Marie

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:55 AM

Your favorite: Spandex!

#30 ~Romanda~

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 02:16 AM

Only if her boots match!