Will these issues be resolved ??

[Ishmael Moridin 0]

Interesting perspective.

 

It is more or less understood that channelling marked the beginning of the second age, the age we know as the Age of Legends. Hence it is quite possible that its absence will make a significant-enough occurrence to mark the end of an age.

 

Yep.

 

I also agree that this time, the battle between the Light and the Dark will have a much more decisive conclusion than the last time, if in the last time you could even call it a conclusion. The DO, while immobilized, still affected the world by creating the taint of saidin, so you couldn't really call him defeated. Remember that the DO exists outside of the Great Pattern, so it does beg the question -- Can he really even be defeated? Or is the defeat of the Shadow supposed to be a figurative victory in the end? Maybe there will always be evil in the end. Maybe the Prophecies are incorrect, or maybe Rand and the Lightfriends will not succeed. Even the Age of Legends was not free of evil (think back to Semirhage's twisted sadism).

 

We have to get a few things clear here,.... these are my understandings,... I may be wrong and hence my conclusions may also be wrong.

1. DO tainted the saidin at the time of the sealing,... after which he had no much(almost none) influence on the world. Ishmael on the other hand was loosely bound and could still keep the seeds of dark alive.

2. The evil can never be killed off permanently, if there exists a Great pattern, there exits a DO. The source of evil (or the DO)can only be stymed (or think of it as closing a hole), but it will find a way out and start affecting the world again, sometimes in a matter of a few thousand years or other times in a few ages. It never goes away completely from the lives of people.

3. The AOL was peaceful to a large extent(upto the end atleast), other than stray cases of crime whose perpetrators were bound using the oath rods, rendering them incapable of committing such offences in the future.

 

Keeping these in mind, you are correct in a way when you say that there will always be evil in the end. We know that the AOL was by and large free of evil until the bore was opened and the DO could touch the world again. The twisted sadism of Semi and the likes only happened after the DO could touch the world.

 

What, however, makes you believe that channelers will die off in the intermediate time? A work of the DO? Perhaps a stigmatization of channelers? Maybe an epidemic that will only affect those who can channel? Or will they all die or get sterilized at TG (I just thought of this now, but a rather common side effect of nuclear irradiation is sterilization. Kind of makes you wonder again about "twice the day shall dawn...") ?

 

Yep, that is also a very good possibility, as it adds to my theory. I was thinking more on the lines of the pattern itself slowly reducing the birth of channellers(is this what you refer to as stigmatization ??) and finally removing it totally so that the phenomenon of chanelling is completely forgotten. I expect the surviving channellers to die of age.

 

So please, elaborate on your hypotheses. I am interested to hear more. :-)

 

Does this help??

 

Marie, that also may be a possibility, with min(I can't think of anybody else) somehow getting impregnated with avi-rand's kids.

[FortyFiveAuto 1]

In the end, I think that is a very good possibility. Maybe Lothair Mantelar was right. He believed that channelling is not something to be trusted with human hands, as it might be used for great and unthinkable evil, like opening up the devil's prison.

 

What I meant by stigmatization is that the non-channelling populace will, with or without the direction of the Children of the Light, condemn channelling on a grand scale, fed up with thousands of years of Power-wrought tomfoolery which caused the War of the Power, the Breaking of the World, The Trolloc Wars (indirectly), and countless other things that would not have been if it weren't for the One Power. After all, It's not like the current age is living all the miracles and amenities found in the AoL. What I think is that perhaps mankind in general has seen too much pain and suffering as a result of channelling, and maybe, after TG is finished and the Light victorious, it will be past-time to pull the plug on it all. This sort of antagonism against "magic" and "witchcraft" is supported by general Christian doctrine. The Book of Revelation condemns sorcery and its advocates to Hell. Perhaps this philosophy against supernatural manipulation will parallel the mood of the general populace of Randland.

[Ishmael Moridin 0]

In the end, I think that is a very good possibility. Maybe Lothair Mantelar was right. He believed that channelling is not something to be trusted with human hands, as it might be used for great and unthinkable evil, like opening up the devil's prison.

 

Who is this Lothair dude again ?? *Goes off to brush up on WOT again*

 

What I meant by stigmatization is that the non-channelling populace will, with or without the direction of the Children of the Light, condemn channelling on a grand scale, fed up with thousands of years of Power-wrought tomfoolery which caused the War of the Power, the Breaking of the World, The Trolloc Wars (indirectly), and countless other things that would not have been if it weren't for the One Power. After all, It's not like the current age is living all the miracles and amenities found in the AoL. What I think is that perhaps mankind in general has seen too much pain and suffering as a result of channelling, and maybe, after TG is finished and the Light victorious, it will be past-time to pull the plug on it all. This sort of antagonism against "magic" and "witchcraft" is supported by general Christian doctrine. The Book of Revelation condemns sorcery and its advocates to Hell. Perhaps this philosophy against supernatural manipulation will parallel the mood of the general populace of Randland.

 

Yep, that would be a natural reaction of the people once the dust from the TG settles down... that is if there are enough people left

[FortyFiveAuto 1]

Lothair Mantelar was the founder of the Children of the Light.

[Marie 73]

According to Galad he said a lot of things that made sense. If I recall, the modern day Whitecloaks took what he said and corrupted it.

 

I don't think people should use the One Power like they do know; it seems a bit too much like crack. The more you use it, the more you want to use it. Withdrawals if you go without it.

[jan 14]

Of course, now that saidin is cleansed, it opens a whole new can of worms...

[Ishmael Moridin 0]

Lothair Mantelar was the founder of the Children of the Light.

 

Thanks

 

I cannot enter any message smaller than 10 chars ??

[Valentina 0]

Well,all you theories seem to be possible...But somebody asked about Ashmodean's death,actually who killed him. I think it's Greandal who killed him.

[Ishmael Moridin 0]

I believe it was slayer who killed asmodean and dragged the body into the Dreamworld.

[Marie 73]

I do think it was a Forsaken. I'm pretty sure someone came up with a very nice, well explained theory on it.

 

I was not them, so I have no idea what they said!

[jan 14]

You know... I don't remember who killed whom. I can't even keep track of who's dead and who's not any more!

[Valentina 0]

But one thing is sure...Asmodean was killed by someone he knew,so it's logically to be one of the Forsaken...

[FortyFiveAuto 1]

But one thing is sure...Asmodean was killed by someone he knew,so it's logically to be one of the Forsaken...

 

Or Hadnan Kadere, whom I believe did it.

 

Why would the Forsaken risk getting caught with the crime when they could simply order a peon darkfriend to do it? Asmodean knew him, hence it is just as likely to have been done by him.

[Ishmael Moridin 0]

Or Hadnan Kadere' date=' whom I believe did it.

 

Why would the Forsaken risk getting caught with the crime when they could simply order a peon darkfriend to do it? Asmodean knew him, hence it is just as likely to have been done by him.[/quote']

 

But what about the body ??

[FortyFiveAuto 1]

Disposing of the body is a secondary problem.