Thom -- the first man?

[Sam 19]

We all know about Siuan (or we all should at least), but aside from her i doubt moiraine has any um experience.

[Vertex 23]

I know I ruin it for those of us who are romantic and prude and want Moiraine to be all virginal for Thom but there is just no way she never met anyone before him that she fancied. He just isn't that special and she's way too practical not to scratch her itches with whatever is handy.

[Mercutia 0]

I always thought it's impossible that Moiraine and Lan never did anything during 20 years always together alongside each other...

[jan 14]

Nah, I'm sure a good-looking lass like Moiraine has had -- and taken up -- plenty of chances for "fun". And I don't care what RJ says, I too find it hard to believe that she and Lan spent 20 years together without doing anything.

[Deadsy 19]

I think she's a virgin. Not because she was saving herself, but because she felt she had more important things to do. I also don't see her as someone who'd have a casual relationship, and she was always travelling so that was the only option. It was pretty clear she wasn't into Lan that way and I think her Cairhien-ness would have kept her from doing anything with him.

Edited November 21, 2011 by Deadsy

[Vertex 23]

If she was that introverted and only manages to open up to Thom in her 40s, I don't think she'd be a Blue because they seem to be go out and do stuff people. She travels the world and meets thousands of men and she clearly finds that kinda life fruitful and giving or she'd have agents traveling all over for her while she's hiding somewhere with a bunch of cats. I added that last bit about cats because they are good for lonely people not loving to go out.

[Marie 73]

I agree with both sides.

 

Being a Cairhienin doesn't stop one from having wild sex with strangers, it just stops you from talking about it. What I think hinders Moiraine is her paranoia. She would, I believe, need to vet anyone before she hopped into bed with them, otherwise she would be second and third guessing everything they said. Do they like me because I'm pretty? Or because they know I'm a Damodred? Or because they know I'm Aes Sedai? OR because they know I'm Aes Sedai AND a Damodred? Or maybe...!

 

And yet, I have a hard time believing she wouldn't be a little curious, just once, what it was like with a Warder.

[Vertex 23]

I guess Moiraine could be a bit paranoid...but even if she was truly paranoid, surely she could still have sex and still be secure about not giving away all her secrets or be neurotic about what her lover might think of her. I'm not saying she's super casual about her sex but remaining a virgin in her forties despite being healthy and outgoing would require her to be passionate about her celibacy and she doesn't come across that way in the books at all. Especially not New Spring.

[Marie 73]

You can't miss what you've never had, and she has had sex so I agree that staying chaste that long would be hard.

[Vertex 23]

I'm making such a great case for fickle floozy Moiraine!

[Marie 73]

Well, not really. Her experience with men is debatable but she isn't technically a virgin. Thank you, Siuan Sanche.

 

[Vertex 23]

I so am! My side is leading, yours is a whole vote behind!

 

Yay Siaun Sanche... *Whisper* If she looked like that at me with such a mustache, I have a feeling my clothes would mysteriously slip off. I wonder if that is what happened to Moiraine and she suddenly found herself nekked before a smiling Siuan.

Edited November 24, 2011 by Vertex

[Deadsy 19]

Leading doesn't make you right. *glare*

[Vertex 23]

Eeep! Be nice to me, I'm fragile! Democracy is based on what most believe is right. So I think this thread should work like that too.

[Vertex 23]

So, it's been over a week since the last posts and all votes are seemingly in, so I hereby rule that Thom was not Moiraine's first man.