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Anyways, I think religion is a way of controlling society for our own good.
I think religion was to help explain the world around them, and later on to explain why certain people could do certain things but others couldn't. Which is a form of control. I don't think it's the same control you're speaking of, because if that was the case, government wouldn't have been invented.
For instance, take murder. Murder is considered wrong in every single culture and religion ever to exist. Why? Because killing people takes memebers away from a society, which makes the group have trouble functioning if it loses too many members. So, not killing a fellow human is a group survival instinct.But what counts as murder depends on the culture/religion. It's also instinct for men to be the only sperm donor, so you could say it's in their blood to kill competion.
But what about killing that is accepted. Again, that is a complex version of basic survival instinct. We are allowed to kill someone who is harming us, directly or indirectly. (Indirectly being killing someone of a different nationality or faith, because you fear that they will affect your culture for the worse or take away what you enjoy).I don't think any faith says you can kill because people scare you. They say you can kill someone of a different faith/society because they are somehow evil. Big difference.
Same with the norms of a group of people being against stealing - it takes away your chances of living long and being happy.And yet a number of faiths condone the stealing of human liberty.
Why? Because if we didn't have a certainty of an afterlife or a rebirth, we would panic. Fall down and scream, because no matter what we do, we will die and never come back out of that nothingness of death that lies only a few decades ahead.People do that anyway.
People would think "well if my existence will end in 50 years, what's the point of having children and making my society go on? Or working? Or doing anything I don't want? Why don't I just go out, live for the moment, steal what I want, kill who I want, and do whatever meets my whims." And you CANNOT have a society that can function with that state of mind in everyone. There would be no mass food production for everyone (who would waste their short lives farming?) No way to get food to people (who would drive a cart or a car when they could be doing something mroe interesting?) Who would police the society, who would be responsible for medicinal purposes or health, or making clothing and buildings and educating people?Religion hasn't stopped people from doing those things. You know what stops them? Government. Fear of being in jail or killed yourself keeps people in check (usually). People have kids because they like sex. If people didn't like sex, most of us wouldn't be here. You see that banner on the top? The artist doesn't believe in God, yet she is being productive and doing something with her life. A number of great artists fall into that category. A number of nonbelievers have a ton of kids. A lack of an afterlife actually spurs some people to make the most of this one.
Having said all that, I do believe in a higher power. I do not, however, believe in organized religion simply because they seem to be moving away from actual spirituality.
I also have much love for Olivia and playing devil's adovate
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You don't need to say sorry! I'll reply...when I'm not being lazy.
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I could be rational and make counterpoints, but that wouldn't be very Nynaeve of me. So.
Not only do all Damodreds look alike, all Cairhien look alike. In fact, they aren't even human but aliens. Big eyed aliens who don't blink enough.
In all seriousness (maybe), I think they just have strong genes. That nose of theirs...that's the type of nose that would take a really long time to get out of the genepool. I also think RJ just wants them to look alike, logic be damned.
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Yes. All Damodreds look alike. This is the natural order of things.
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Moiraine was considered for the throne because she was going to become Aes Sedai...and her sisters weren't queen material. No one in House Damodred would support them for the throne, so there was no need for any other House to kill them off.
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His second wife wasn't a noble so she doesn't count. And, since she was his 4th kid I think he probably was the most daddy-like with her and was very hands on. She's a spoiled rich girl!
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Kailtin and I have been "discussing" the history/fate of Moiraine close relatives. Chielfly her father and sisters.
I personally think Dalresin isn't as good as Moiraine made him out to be. I'm mean, compared to his brothers, yes he was a good guy, but that's not hard. I don't doubt he loved her, but in all likelihood his spoiling her has made her view of him biased.
As far as her sisters, unlike Kate I do not think they are dead. Innloine is likley playing with grandchildren, and Anvaere is with her lesbian lover in south Cairhien.
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I love me some Cersi, but if all the pkers decide to move to a new playing field...well, I'll stay.
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I'm not sure how all our topics end up on Moiraine's sex life (or lack thereof) but it's starting to freak me out.
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I liked Kate because of her presentation, not so much what roles she has or wardrobe. Moiraine has run around killing Forsaken and shadowspawn, and frankly, if a movie were made that's what they would show: Not her sitting back being all "I am the queen of the Game!"
I think Rachel is also a good actress, but watching Kate recently I realized I could forget her height and actually pretend she was Moiraine. With Rachel...she just does not look like Moiraine to me.
Fact is, unless Moiraine Damodred magically becomes real there is no way everyone would be statisfied with one actress to play her. Which is why I vote for animation and voice acting! I'd still like Kate's voice better than Rachel's.
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I confess Rand and his three hos makes me see red. I cannot stand reading any of those sections.
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I do think a short actress would be better, but there are few of those in the movie world. So if there had to be a taller actress, I would prefer Kate over Rachel.
I saw Kate in Underworld Evolution and she was so Momo-esque it was great. Up until then I hadn't really thought she would be good as Moiraine.
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Jan! Behave yourself.
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She just doesn't look like Mo from the comic too me! I think it's the eyebrows.
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I think Kate would be good, actually.
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lol it's ok.
It is interesting though...would Moiraine be counted as a Hero of the Horn now?
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Well, I confess I always think of Egghead as Cairhien pale instead of Two Rivers dark.
I confess I dislike pretty much everyone from the Two Rivers/Andor because of how the village men treated Moiraine after the Trollac attack.
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I thought Moiraine found Rand cute right up until book five.
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Well...if she looks porcelain than by default she'll look fragile.
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*doesn't see it*
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I'm so glad I wasn't the first person to say that
But I agree!
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All the fun words sound the same as English!
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