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But do any of the men ever see younger women as a down side? For any reason? I can't think of any off the top of my head, or maybe the entire topic is just a sore point for me.
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Animal I Have Become - Three Days Grace
one of my new favorites I think
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LOL Travis. Was that revenge for my flute comment? Because it worked. X_X
And in New Spring she didn't seem to be so stiff and reserved as she is in the mainstream series (maybe she was just a tad naive back then). She giggles with Siuan a lot (but maybe that was the tickle-foreplay) and flirts and laughs with Ryne.
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Yea that would fit more I guess.
I logged on today and saw my post and realized just how ridiculous it was! O_O No idea what possessed me.
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I liked Mat because he wasn't one of those "My duty is everything and I cannot be with the One Woman I Love because of it, like Rand or Lan."
And he is bosom-crazed and always ogling, which is just hilarious to read about sometimes. His silly idea that women weren't the "chasers" was annoying though.
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Yea like Travis said, only a few years is Min older than Rand. AND she saw it as a downside! I think I remember the quote of her thought as "nothing else mattered, not that he was an unsophisticated farmboy, younger than she, or the DR" (something like that, really headached now so I don't want to scour the sixth or seventh book for it).
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Poor you!
Giving In - Linkin Park
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Sounds good, Tosh!
I made a plate of curly seasoned fries. Yum!
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Oh Kaitlin....you made me laugh so hard I fell out of my swivel-chair!
Maybe the Damodred family has a secret fetish for moustache-tugging, so Momo and Elayne are both entranced by the dead white rats inhabiting his upper lip. Or maybe she thinks Thom's fingers must be skilled if he juggles and plays the harp so well....no to mention being able to hold his breath well with the flute.
Thom with his mouth wrapped around a long wooden flute...didn't need that image >_<
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Haha Shadowspawn sewing clothes.
What's next? The Dark One throwing a tupperware party for all his girlfriends?
D.O.: (with tiny, barking, curly-haired poodle tucked under his arm) Oh my god, I saw Demandred's ex-gf at the salon today, and she has gotten faaaaaat, I'm talking orca fat! And omg Moridin shaved his chest for me and gave me a brand new bracelet! *squeal* I love it!
Darkfriends: *squee with similar gossip*
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I think the Lan/Nyn thing is icky
Just yet another (if more extreme) case of the uglier older man getting a gorgeous young woman. And she doesn't even LIKE children but somehow he has made her want to have his kids. /gag
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Listeing to the sound of me coughing and hacking and trying not to vomit. Sickness FTL :*(
Also the album Faceless by Godsmack.
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Both of you are making some good points, and neither is exactly incorrect.
I agree with the thought that Mesaa wasn't simply thrown into the Tower by RJ to give her something to do. He's too much of a sneaky bastard to do that.
I also agree with Elaida being used by the Black Ajah, but I think that mostly came later (once she was Amyrlin), and the actual strength of will to depose Siuan and become Amyrlin herself had been there for decades, and was finally set off by world events concerning the Dragon Reborn. I LOOKED IT UP! The scene is as follows in TSR chapter 1: (Elaida's POV) She notices suspicious activities lately with Siuan and "Elmindreda", but she has no proof of anything serious, "Not yet" she says. While she is considering that perhaps Siuan had something to do with Moiraine's invovlement with al'Thor (she is one of few who remembers that Moiraine and Siuan were close during their training), and Min is also a close link to them (Siuan even later thinks that Min could solidify any suspicions against her) THEN Alviarin shows up and strikes up conversation with Elaida. But please note! Elaida has already decided that she has to stop Siuan from "destroying the Tower" and once she chats with Alvi and discovers that she might be willing to help, Elaida's confidence in her plan solidifies. So...later on in the book (chapter 47 The Truth of a Viewing) she holds a Sitting, most of the Hall agrees to depose Siuan, and then Elaida takes a handful of sisters to do the actual arrest. The sisters are: Alviarin, Joline, Shemerin, Danelle, and others from every Ajah but the Blue.
Another question this raises is: If some think Mesaana was behind deposing Siuan...does that mean she was one of the sisters with Elaida at that time when she arrested Siuan? Or was she working in the backround through Alviarin?
Another side note that favors the Black Ajah being behind Siuan's deposing is chapter Deceptions. Earlier in the book, Min (disguised as Elmindreda) goes to see the Amyrlin, and is escorted by a novice called Sahra. Sahra gets sent off the island to a nearby farm as punishment for, technically, being in the wrong place at the wrong time. While there she is visited by an Aes Sedai who is neither named nor described nor given any distinguishable accent. The Aes Sedai tortures the poor girl and demands to know everything about Elmindreda. ---- We know the sister was Black/Forsaken because of the torture and murder, and we know she has great interest in Elmindreda (and it's not the boots). AND we know that Elmindreda's presence was the little spark that led Elaida to her conclusion that Siuan had some sinister plot involving the people from Emond's Field. Put these together and we can either surmise that Elaida's coup had something to do with the Black Ajah, OR that the Black also knew Min had a relation to Rand and therefore could somehow help them kill him or something.
Sorry for the length, feel free to tear my evidence apart if anyone disagrees
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I love that movie. It's so utterly strange. I have the soudntrack too and I listen to it sometimes when I'm just browsing the internet.
@Ajit: there's a few volumes of them, and there's also some 100 min or so long movies with him.
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@ Ekho:
I'm not part of the Momo is Straight club, but I agree with Ekho's anyone but Thom to the degree that Thom sucks. Why do people like him for Moiraine, seriously.
I'm part of the Momo/Siuan Forever flagwavers.
Seriously about the Thom thing, that old critter should have taken a dirt nap 10 years ago, but he's still hanging around annoyingly like the drunk girl who wants to go swimming in the middle of the party and everyone is trying to avoid her but doesn't want to hurt her feelings. It makes me see red to think of him with Moiraine!
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Many students put more effort into finding ways to avoid homework than they do actually completing the assignment.
I was like that too, and I still procrastinate.
@Ajit: I've seen them all, I think (geek alert). Or all the ones with David Suchet as Poirot, rather.
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Oooh I've seen those, Ajit. I kinda liked them, though some of the English accents are wearysome after a while, although others are very pretty.
Sorry everyone for the horrors! I couldn't help myself. *hides face in shame*
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I also had pizza.
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All Hail the new Random! Long live Random the Eighth!
Heh I just realized that "Random" is a good name for a thread in a Wheel of Time forum - meaning kingdom of Rand.
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Yea she is one of the most singularly annoying characters in the books. Maybe it's her extremely skewed opinion on what she wants from a man that just solidifies that RJ often has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to female love. Whether it's that or not, I really don't like her, and I know I'm not alone here.
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I think even with the age-cut and the slowing thing, Aes Sedai needed the Oath Rod (as Siuan so perfectly put it in book 8) to ensure that people would respect their authority without them having to directly resort to dictatorship and using the Power to conquer. Aes Sedai cannot lie, everyone knows that, so even if they mistrust a sister, they still know she is not lying to them. And she cannot hunt them down and kill them with the Power unless they harm her first, so Aes Sedai are accepted (although feared) in most places and by most nobles/rulers. Also, the Oath about not making weapons ensures that people will not try and enlist the White Tower in their own personal wars against other nations, which keeps the Tower as an objective outsider and mediator in international affairs.
They didn't need the Oaths in the Age of Legends because Aes Sedai were seen in a good light and respected by all. But then channelers went and destroyed the face of the world, and therefore everyone mistrusts their power now.
So, all these things granted to Aes Sedai by the Oaths in modern day WoTland are a necessary sacrifice to their lifespans, methinks, and I think most Aes Sedai would agree.
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I still think it was deeper than just no-other-option-have-to-get-the-sexual-tension-out-somehow.
They obviously care about each other, and Moiraine even says directly that "she had never loved anyone as much as Siuan". They were so close in terms of training and strength in the Power, also, which forges another tie between them besides just the normal friendship or pillow-friendship that other novices and Accepted go through.
I think they were truly in love with each other, but when they became Aes Sedai they gave more ot their causes than to themselves, which split them apart physically, which led to a dimming of the love.
I do agree that both are attracted to men and not women, but I don't think they totally forgot about each other or regretted their relationship.
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I like Moggy but Lanfear was probably my favourite forsaken, I just wish moiraine had let her kill Rand:P
I so agree. An interesting turn would have been the death of Rand, and then Moiraine/Lanfear become lovers despite the fact that they are working towards opposite outcomes of the Last Battle.
I liked Moghedien as a read, but as a person I thought she wasn't as cowardly as she was made out to be. A lot of what WoTlanders deem as "cowardice" many modern people would see as common sense, probably because of the shifting of values from large causes and groups to more personal-oriented goals (such as staying alive no matter what). She has gone through some serious crap to survive - like being raped and enslaved by lesser mortals - and she found ways to keep her sanity and never stop plotting how to escape.
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Yes, why Berelain? I don't even think there is any interaction between Moiraine and Berelain other than the scene where Berelain is introduced, when she brings the letter from Lanfear to Moiraine and the others that are lounging about the Stone at the end of TDR.
@Marie: I LOVE the new avatar, it brightened my boring, work-filled night!
[Split] Fashion meets WoT
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Yay! Somewhere my insanity isn't deviance.